In a wide-ranging interview with POLITICO’s White House bureau chief Dasha Burns on Tuesday, the former Trump strategist and War Room podcast host taunted Elon Musk, predicted a much tighter ship at the White House and spoke about what his upcoming fraud trial might mean for his impact in Trump world. Here are our top takeaways.

Former Trump adviser Steve Bannon is going for the jugular on Elon Musk. In an interview with Italian newspaper Corriere della Sera published Wednesday, Bannon lambasted the world’s richest man as a “truly evil guy” who would be out of Trumpworld by Inauguration Day.